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From: dan@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DECwindows: does it use DECnet, TCP or both?
Message-ID: <1820@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Date: 20 Jan 89 13:34:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: sparkles.1820
References: <2017@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> <2599@decuac.DEC.COM> <169@oregon.uoregon.edu> <2600@decuac.DEC.COM>
Reply-To: dan@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier)
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario
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In article <2600@decuac.DEC.COM> avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) writes:
>Well, not speaking officially of course....  TCP/IP is TCP/IP.  Okay, this
>is a lie, but you know what I mean.  If the stuff runs on top of TCP/IP
>it'll run on TWG's or DEC's, no?  I really dont think that something special
>will be done to disallow anyone else's version as a transport.
>
>On TCP/IP support from Digital...  It has been publically stated that while
>V1.0 of VMS/ULTRIX Connection (shouldbe VMS/NFS Connection or  VMS/IP Conn...)
>doesnt support telnet, the r* commands, nor smtp, telnet is planned
>for the next version.  SMTP is being looked at.  Everything else is there,
>basically.

Yeah right!

As long as the room is called a kitchen then it's a kitchen. Of course there
is no fridge or stove but you do have a sink with a window over it so it's
basically all there isn't it? Of course if want to cook food then you have to 
buy our stove and our fridge and these appliances will only cook the food
that you buy from us but hey you can eat can't you.

Perhaps if DEC can see the light and provide facilities to work within an
environment instead of insisting that it define the environment they might
sell a few more VMS based machines. I have nothing against DEC hardware, it
runs our 4.3bsd just fine.

I happen to think those r* commands along with smtp and telnet are necessary
for a properly integrated environment. I guess DEC and I have opposing views.

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Dan Trottier                                            dan@maccs.McMaster.CA
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