Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!ames!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!tikal!nwnexus!happym!kent From: kent@happym.UUCP (Kent Forschmiedt) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Getting working versions of Unix(TM) utilities Message-ID: <604@happym.UUCP> Date: 10 Jan 89 23:57:51 GMT References: <1327@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca> <856@mailrus.cc.umich.edu> Reply-To: kent@happym.UUCP (Kent Forschmiedt) Organization: Happy Man Corporation Lines: 24 chk@zorac.dciem.dnd.ca asks: >So, how do we poor slobs get versions of the software *without* bugs? Peter Honeyman answers: >you BUY it. Gosh, thanks. For only twice what I paid for my 8 user system, I can get Unix sources and spend the next month getting stuff running here. If I am lucky, a few of the programs will work better than what I have. For the rest, I can spend a few thousand dollars worth of my time fixing the bugs that have already been fixed but AT&T hasn't seen fit to sell to the world, even at obnoxiously inflated prices. Of course, if I want any of the stuff that isn't in the standard distribution, I can get those things from the Toolchest for only a few thousands more. Yes, I know; in a perfect world, my vendor would provide current versions and fix bugs for a reasonable fee. Unfortunately, the world isn't perfect, and my vendor isn't even close. They are half way there, at least: they do collect the reasonable fee, they just don't fix bugs or provide current versions. -- kent@happym.wa.com, tikal!camco!happym!kent, Happy Man Corp 206-282-9598