Xref: utzoo talk.philosophy.misc:1827 comp.ai:3082 sci.bio:1751 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!haven!purdue!bu-cs!mirror!rayssd!raybed2!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc,comp.ai,sci.bio Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence Summary: Together, we can we piece this one together. Keywords: Synthetic Reasoning Message-ID: <43576@linus.UUCP> Date: 13 Jan 89 08:29:06 GMT References: <558@soleil.UUCP> <43472@linus.UUCP> <331@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix (Barry Kort) Organization: IdeaSync, Inc., Chronos, VT Lines: 29 In article <331@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> markh@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark William Hopkins) takes me up on my jigsaw puzzle metaphor: >In article <43472@linus.UUCP> bwk@mbunix (Barry Kort) writes: >>If I give you a large, assembled jigsaw puzzle, and you examine >>it piece by piece, you will end up with a pile of carefully >>examined pieces. > >I don't know about that. I solve most of my puzzles by classifying pieces >on the basis of their shape and printed color, with little or no regard >for the place where they fit in the "big" picture. > >Yet, I also claim that I'm solving the puzzle holistically in the process. >The "big" picture always emerges out of the jumble of pieces near the end. I grant that you are solving the puzzle holistically. After all, the big picture does in fact emerge at the end. But the *process* of solution seems to be occuring outside the focus of concious attention. We can teach people how to examine the jigsaw pieces, and classify them by color, shape, and texture. But the method of assembly which yields the "Aha! Insight" seems to a fuzzier, less algorithmic activity. Perhaps it is occuring largely in the right hemisphere, using parallel processing and combinatorial logic. Why is it that holistic thinking and insight seems to come during periods of sleep or during periods when our attention is diverted away from the problem at hand? Why is it that the solution "shows up" without warning? --Barry Kort