Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!ubc-cs!van-bc!tessera!seacbc!wain
From: wain@seacbc.UUCP (Wain Dobson)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Leonard Peltier P.O.W.
Message-ID: <176@seacbc.UUCP>
Date: 28 Jan 89 21:15:35 GMT
References: <568@yunccn.UUCP> <1840@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <351@ists.ists.ca> <1865@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Reply-To: wain@seacbc.UUCP (Wain Dobson)
Organization: SEAC Software Engineering, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1865@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca> dan@sparkles.UUCP (Dan Trottier) writes:
>In article <351@ists.ists.ca> mathieu@ists.ists.ca (Pierre Mathieu) writes:
>>In article <1840@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, dan@sparkles.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier) writes:
>>> In article <568@yunccn.UUCP> john@yunccn.UUCP (John Hummel) writes:
>>> Regardless of good intentions the Usenet is not a place where on should
>>> be canvasing for donations. 
>>> 
>>	It was perhaps not very wise to ask for contributions on the
>>net but I think that deleting the article for this reason is a rather
>>draconian measure. After all, if this rule of thumb starts applying,
>>should not "FOR SALE" and "FOR RENT" articles also be banned from the
>>net? Are these not also personal causes? 
>
>We can get into a religious war about this but let me just say I don't
>believe FOR SALE articles fall into the same category as SUPPORT MY CAUSE
>articles. It's like getting flyers in the mail. I keep the supermarket
>flyers but generally throw away any support my cause flyers (and usually
>curse about junk mail while doing so)
>
>I just don't want to see resources on the net wasted on junk mail.

SUPPORT MY CAUSE; FOR SALE; FOR RENT, etc.: all should be prohibited from the
net, totally.

From my perspective, the net provides a forum where concepts, ideas, etc. can
be exchanged. Fund raising, commercial advertisement other than what is posted
to comp.newprod (new products), and etc., just do not fall into my narrow
concept. And, I admit that it is narrow. 

Like most of the people whom read and post, time is limited. And, from my point
of view, I spend time at the office file 13'ing 90% of the mail, saying no to
the continuous flow of solicitors appearing at the office door, being rude to 
the insane number of phone solicitations which the secretary does not manage to
catch, etc. Each of the preceding not only costs me time but also money.
Furthermore, at home I spend time file 13'ing 90% of the mail arriving there,
have my meals and what leisure I have continually interrupted by phone
solicitation and, because I live in an area where real estate is considered to
be very marketable, I am plagued by real estate people wanting to know if I
desire to sell. I am assaulted by television advertising, radio advertising,
bill boards, .... Even books, now contain advertising inserts. 

I could be less personal about what I articulated in the previous paragraph
but, on this subject, sophism only increases the pile in the corral.
-- 
Wain Dobson
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