Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!cs.tcd.ie!vax1!rwallace From: rwallace@vax1.tcd.ie Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Fun with the semantics of paradox Message-ID: <30987@vax1.tcd.ie> Date: 20 Jan 89 18:17:47 GMT References: <1883@buengc.BU.EDU> <2996@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <905@ubu.warwick.UUCP> <7282@venera.isi.edu> Organization: Computer Laboratory, Trinity College Dublin Lines: 21 In article <7282@venera.isi.edu>, smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu (Stephen Smoliar) writes: >>To clarify what I mean above by my understanding of the terms >>ambiguous and undecidable, I suspect that the sentence "This sentence >>is true" is ambiguous, since it can consistently be either true or >>false, and "This sentence is false" is undecidable, since it cannot be >>either. Both sentences seem to me to be meaningless. >> > This has been giving me trouble, too. Another possible interpretation is that > "meaningless" refers to sentences that are not well-formed; but then, of > course, they are not really sentences, in which case it does not make sense > to talk of their having truth values. I don't really see what the problem is about paradoxes like "This statement is false". Many formal systems contain expressions which cannot be evaluated within that system. Mathematics contains things like 1/0. Logic contains things like "This statement is false". Although a logical statement, it has no logical solution. So what? Why get worried about it? "To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem" Russell Wallace, Trinity College, Dublin rwallace@vax1.tcd.ie