Xref: utzoo comp.ai:3184 talk.philosophy.misc:1884 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!xanth!mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw From: throopw@xyzzy.UUCP (Wayne A. Throop) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence Message-ID: <3046@xyzzy.UUCP> Date: 24 Jan 89 18:26:13 GMT References: <552@soleil.UUCP> <687@htsa.uucp> <244@verdix.verdix.com> <2894@xyzzy.UUCP> <43722@linus.UUCP> Organization: Data General, RTP NC. Lines: 24 > bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) >> throopw@xyzzy.UUCP (Wayne A. Throop) >> After all, it is not known how one goes about building rich and >> accurate models of things, and tying these to perceptions. > As it happens, I build models for a living. And, Wayne's comment > notwithstanding, I think I know how I do it. :-) My statement above is intended to mean that we don't know of any algorithms that can build models as rich and accurate as those we humans build automatically or at least "subconsciously" (at least, not for as broad a domain and with reasonable efficency). In particular, the step in model building algorithm that Barry calls "comprehension" or "capture" is not itself an algorithm, or an atomic operation of any automaton known. It is in that narrow sense that I meant that "it is knot known how one goes about building rich and accurate models of things". -- English language human-machine dialog is roughly equivalent to a conversation between an idiot and a very young child. --- Vincent Rauzino - Datamation May 1982 -- Wayne Throop !mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw