Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!ncar!boulder!sunybcs!bingvaxu!leah!rpi!liszt.cs.rpi.edu!weltyc From: weltyc@cs.rpi.edu (Christopher A. Welty) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Fun with the semantics of paradox Keywords: Aristotelian Logic, Law of the Excluded Middle Message-ID: <374@rpi.edu> Date: 27 Jan 89 21:03:56 GMT References: <479@aipna.ed.ac.uk> <3038@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <43843@linus.UUCP> <32698@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Sender: usenet@rpi.edu Organization: RPI Computer Science Dept. Lines: 41 >In article <43843@linus.UUCP> bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry Kort) writes: > Let's play with the assertion, > > "The current king of France is bald." > > If we put this into symbolic logic notation, we get > > For all x, if x is the current king of France, then x is bald. > And this statement, according to first order logic, is equivalent to : For all x, x is not the current king of france or x is bald Which is true (when the or is understood not to be exclusive). In article <32698@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Diana Smetters writes:> > > "There exists an x, such that x is the current king of France and x is bald." > [which is false] Actually I think this the correct (logic) interpretation of the statement. The problem is that the statement implies indirectly that there exists a current king of france, in fact the statemnet assumes this. When this assumption is shown to be false, the statement becomes false (according to logic). But this is missing the point. Two-valued logics can not deal with the information in this sentence. The truthness or falsness is not the point, it's the meaninglessness. The english statement does not say `there is a current king of france', nor does it say `all people are either the current king of france or bald'. The point is that we, as humans, are able to form sentences like this and understand that there is no `truth value' associated with it - it's meaningless. of course, if you had a many-valued logic you might be able to have values for things like meaningless (see the first posting on this subject). Christopher Welty --- Asst. Director, RPI CS Labs weltyc@cs.rpi.edu ...!njin!nyser!weltyc