Xref: utzoo comp.ai:3283 talk.philosophy.misc:1942 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!cogsci!dave From: dave@cogsci.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Fun with the semantics of paradox Message-ID: <17158@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Date: 2 Feb 89 18:54:51 GMT References: <583@soleil.UUCP> <1361@ncar.ucar.edu> Sender: root@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu Reply-To: dave@cogsci.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Lines: 58 In article <1361@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@cgdra.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes: > What I think is happening is that people are assuming that a given English >sentence must have some kind of logical truth/falsehood to it, merely because >we can state it as a sentence. > > I can think of literally thousands of perfectly good sentences that are in >fact total nonsense, to wit: > > "Bananas are elephants." > "All good men are Buicks." > "Truth is defined to be that which is sugar." > "For something to be false means that it is wavy like a reed in a gale." > > All these sentences are perfectly good from a purely syntactical viewpoint, >ie they are gramatically correct, but that says nothing about whether or not >they actually MEAN anything. Sure these sentences mean something. They're quite coherent to me. The only trouble with them is that they're FALSE. This is a far cry from being meaningless. > I think this also applies to such things as: > > "This sentence is paradox." > > "The following sentence is false." > "The previous sentence is true." (or whatever the doublet is) Now these sentences (at least the last pair, anyway) are different. The last pair cannot be assigned truth-values (not even false ones), which means that something different is going on. This leads a lot of people to the conclusion that they're meaningless. For a lot of people, the reason they draw this conclusion is that (for them) meaning is DEFINED in terms of truth-value. Personally, I think this is putting the cart before the horse. Truth-value or no truth-value, these sentences are meaningless because they are CONTENT-FREE. They say nothing about the world; they say nothing interesting at all about anything but their own truth-value. And as truth-values have to be ultimately grounded in reality, this is equivalent to saying nothing at all. Someone might say to me: 'in Godel's theorem, doesn't he construct some silly sentence equivalent to "This statement is false", and use it to draw powerful conclusions about mathematics? So how can you say that this sentence is meaningless?'. But the beauty of Godel's construction is that at the SAME TIME as the sentence is talking about itself, it is also talking about a complex mathematical proposition (because the statement can be interpreted on two levels). So this seemingly "meaningless" sentence is in fact grounded in hard reality. So that's the lesson: meaning comes first, and truth-value second. And I should set one thing straight. There is absolutely no paradox about the statement "This sentence is paradox." The statement is simply false. Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition Indiana University