Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ucsd!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpsgpa!hpsgrt1!long From: long@hpsgrt1.HP.COM (Shyh-Lai LONG) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Re: Fun with the semantics of paradox Message-ID: <2430001@hpsgrt1.HP.COM> Date: 2 Feb 89 00:10:58 GMT References: <19625@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: HP Computational Products Singapore Lines: 23 / hpsgrt1:comp.ai / weltyc@cs.rpi.edu (Christopher A. Welty) / 6:32 am Jan 31, 1989 / In article <19625@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> sp299-ad@violet.berkeley.edu (Celso Alvarez) writes: > [...] since the statement > > "The current king of France" > >(uttered while pointing at a portrait or photograph) is false in itself, >why claim that the whole sentence is "meaningless"? You are adding here a context to the statement, implying that the more formal meaning of the statement is `This is the current king of France'. But that, I would claim, is a COMPLETELY different statement than just "The current king of France", because this statement is NOT false. It is based upon the presupposition (which, as you point out, is the correct term) that there IS a current king of France. But the statement itself DOES NOT make this claim. I claim that the understanding of this statement requires a notion beyond that of truth or falsehood. Christopher Welty --- Asst. Director, RPI CS Labs weltyc@cs.rpi.edu ...!njin!nyser!weltyc ----------