Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!cwjcc!alpha.ces.cwru.edu!pjd From: pjd@alpha.ces.cwru.edu (dr. funk) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Writing and eng'ing ed Message-ID: <412@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu> Date: 25 Jan 89 15:36:34 GMT Sender: news@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu Reply-To: pjd@alpha.ces.cwru.edu (dr. funk) Distribution: na Organization: digital systems research group/CWRU Lines: 35 Just a few new comments on engineering students and communication skills. 1. Our engineering school requires all of its students to take a technical writing course. This course is associated with one particular lab course in the major department. The students submit their lab reports to the tech writing guys for review, editting, etc. Although the lectures are taken as a joke, the practice and review process is very helpful. 2. I teach the lab course which co-ordinates with the tech writing class. The students get a "World War III" briefing on day one about the need for good communication skills. The bottom line is, "Your communications reflect who you are. If you can't spell and consistently use bad grammar, you are sloppy, apparently stupid and deserve to be stuck in an entry level programming/logic design job." Heavy handed? Yes. (I worked in industry, too, so flames to /dev/null.) 3. I also teach the senior projects course. The documentation is every bit as important as the technical work. In fact, if the write-up stinks, typically the grade will stink, too. (See comment 2 above.) Students must also make a spoken presentation of their project work (20 to 30 minutes.) The quality of the presentations improved dramatically when: a. The tech writing course was put in place, b. The instructor in design methodologies required formal presentations, c. We mandated the use of transparencies and gave hints about good presentation style. Frankly, I'm proud of what we have accomplished. 4. Why do I have to teach people remedial communication skills in the junior and senior year of university? And, at a "selective" university to boot? All I know is that Sister Gertrude would kick butt until her seventh grade students could speak and write grammatically (and that included us budding juvenile delinquents, too. :-) God bless that woman! paul j. drongowski usenet: {decvax,sun,att}!cwjcc!pjd!pjd case western reserve university csnet: pjd@alpha.ces.cwru.edu