Xref: utzoo talk.politics.soviet:978 comp.misc:4860 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!pprg.unm.edu!hc!lll-winken!tekbspa!optilink!cramer From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet,comp.misc Subject: Re: USSR International Computer Club Message-ID: <887@optilink.UUCP> Date: 31 Jan 89 18:37:22 GMT References: <8901241514.AA04102@decwrl.dec.com. <9778@bcsaic.UUCP. Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA Lines: 42 In article <9778@bcsaic.UUCP., rwojcik@bcsaic.UUCP (Rick Wojcik) writes: . In article <8901241514.AA04102@decwrl.dec.com. simon@hpstek.dec.com (Curiosier and curiosier...) writes: . .It may sound all too well, but are you aware that the ordinary Soviet . .citizens may not own computer printers. It is illegal and punishable by . .law to a few years in prison. Do you still want to promote computer . .contacts with the Soviet Union? . . Are you aware that computer disks have some advantages over printed matter? . They store more information per pound, they can be easily concealed, and they . can be easily transported. People in samizdat used to have to copy And the contents can be encrypted, allowing "subversive" materials to be circulated, and the key passed on mouth-to-mouth, making it more difficult to determine if the contents are pornographic or something REALLY subversive, like free market economics. . manuscripts laboriously on typewriters. Computers can certainly be misused by . totalitarian regimes. In the end, however, they may signal the death knell of . totalitarianism, because they make it virtually impossible to control the flow . of information. . . I strongly support computer contacts with the Soviet Union. I don't believe . that it will appreciably increase security risks. (The KGB seems to have done . a pretty good job of penetrating our security already.) I don't fear exposure . of Americans to Soviet propaganda. Our society accepts (or ought to accept) Not when we have American news media already. . the view that public exposure is the best way of sorting out ideas. If . anything, the Soviets have more to fear from this contact than we do. After . all, our side has the more compelling arguments. Right? . . Rick Wojcik csnet: rwojcik@atc.boeing.com Personal computing and rock-and-roll are going to be the most important factors in the death of Marxism. -- Clayton E. Cramer {pyramid,pixar,tekbspa}!optilink!cramer Disclaimer? You must be kidding! No company would hold opinions like mine!