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From: woolstar@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (John D Woolverton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: Don't support System V
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Date: 27 Jan 89 14:13:10 GMT
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> Wonderful!  Then maybe the features of 4.4 BSD can be merged into System V
> release 9 sometime in the next century!  :-)

Just when their getting ready to merge Berkeley 4.3 into 
System V release 4.3 :-)


>>What *is* sad is how much the third-tier companies are being constrained by
>>what's happening on the first tier. Customers are demanding System V. Not SVID
>>or POSIX or X/OPEN, but System V. If it doesn't look just like a 3B20, it gets
>>shipped back. Innovation in UNIX is rapidly becoming a thing of the past.

I was very unhappy with what our 3B20 came with:
   A c compiler that had numerous bugs.  (I was surprised that any of the
      programs/system stuff worked)
   A bourne shell, cat, grep, find, and a few other /etc stuff.

What it didn't come with includes:
   more, less, csh, ksh, telnet, rlogin, ftp, (networking ...),
   tip, emacs, man, uptime, who, finger, date, and all those little
   things that I like to use from day to day.

One of the few blessing it had was that it had the software
for the dmd 5620 on it so that I could actually have windows to
it.  (One of three people on campus who could do this.)

For quite a while, it did get some use by a band of undergrads
hacking empire on it.  It was jokingly refered to cit-empire
instead of cit-3b.  One thing I'll give it though, when we
had to remake all the empire code, boy would it race.

As it is, we still do not have any form of network communications
or hardware for it on our 3b20.

	woolstar@csvax.caltech.edu
	 woolstar@cit-3b.caltech.edu  :-)
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