Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!A.ISI.EDU!CERF From: CERF@A.ISI.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Loose and Strict source routing Message-ID: <[A.ISI.EDU]31-Jan-89.19:47:37.CERF> Date: 1 Feb 89 00:47:00 GMT References: <8901311512.AA05344@sneezy.lanl.gov> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 20 Phil, Unless I'm badly mistaken, there isn't any guarantee that a non-source-routed internet packet has a valid source address. Of course, responses to such a spoofed packet may not make it back to the origin unless a cooperating gateway helps out, or the source is on an Ethernet and is operating in promiscuous mode. I suggest that, if source authentication is an issue, you will need stronger tools/mechanisms than avoiding the use of source routing of either type. The general problem of authentication in the Internet is very important, applies to many areas including, for example, various control methods (e.g. network management subsystems) and will probably require some form of cryptographic protection to solve. The cryptography need not be used to conceal information - merely to provide an unforgeable authentication of the source. Vint Cerf