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From: paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: amiga 2500UX
Message-ID: <43@snll-arpagw.UUCP>
Date: 22 Jan 89 03:07:54 GMT
References: <37@snll-arpagw.UUCP> <6873@killer.DALLAS.TX.US>
Reply-To: paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci)
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA
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In article <6873@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) writes:
->in article <37@snll-arpagw.UUCP>, paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci) says:
->> In article <11280@swan.ulowell.edu> page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes:
->>>It exists.  It works.  Has an MMU.  The custom windowing system (not
->>>intuition, workbench or X, or anything else you've ever seen) is
->>>pretty slick.  No flames, OK?  A non-standard windowing system is
->>>better than nothing.  Beside, it's slick.  VERY fast.
->> 
->> Why Commodore does not use X as the windowing system I cannot understand.
->> There should be two big reasons why they shold use it:
->> 
->> 1) It is fast becoming the standard Unix windowing system.
->> 
->> 2) A former Commodore-Amiga employee (Dale Luck) has already X11
->>    working under AmigaDOS.
->
->How about reasons why they should NOT use it:
->
->1) It takes up massive amounts of disk space, and they only have an
->80mb drive in their base system.

Funny, the X server, fonts, and quite a few clients only take up less
than 4 megabytes on my Amiga hard disk (I'm beta testing one that runs
under AmigaDOS).

->2) Takes up a lot of memory space, and they only have 4mb of 32-bit
->RAM. Would cause lots of paging and thrashing. 

Again, the AmigaDOS version will run with only 1 Meg of 16-bit ram with
a measly 68000, and I don't see much slow down of the other Amiga tasks
I have running.

->It seems to me that a small, fast windowing environment is a Big Win
->under these conditions. Very little Unix software assumes any sort of
->windowing environment, so this is no Big Loss, either.  X is fairly
->fast (though not excessively so), but is far from small.

It seems to me that Commodore would have been better off in spending
the time to see how the could get AmigaDOS and UNIX running at the
same time.

->However, I do agree that they should offer it as an option for
->networking environments. First, they have to implement a networking
->environment, though!
->
->--
->Eric Lee Green    ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg


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