Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!purdue!mailrus!cwjcc!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: IEEE-488 Question. Summary: I think it is not the spindle motor Message-ID: <1475@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 23 Jan 89 14:11:00 GMT References: <2030146@hpcilzb.HP.COM> <410@madnix.UUCP> <5145@super.ORG> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 33 The spindle motor on the current generations of Seagate (and almost all other) drives is a DC servo motor that is about the same as used on direct drive phono turntables. On drives such as the ST-251R, etc., the problem is apparently the stepper motor that controls positioning of the heads. When the drive powers up, the stepper is commanded to release the head assembly from park. There is a fail-safe that does not spin up the platter if the heads don't release. At least, that's how it was described to me. Sounds backwards to me. I'd think you'd want the platter moving before releasing the heads, so that there is sufficient air motion to fly the heads. Hmmm. The repair person said the poking the head stepper motor shaft would cure the sticky Seagates. I have a 20 meg drive here that says "Epson" on it, but appears that it might have been OEM'ed by Quantum. This drive suffers from so-called stiction (sticky + friction ??). Apparently, the platters were supposed to be lubricated with some sort of silicone stuff,... but it didn't work. When the drive stops, the heads adhere to the platter in much the same way that machinists guage blocks stick together due to the ultra flat surfaces. The only way to get the drive moving is to poke the flywheel with a screwdriver because the spindle motor doesn't have enough torque to break the heads loose. Miraculously, the drive hasn't gotten any damage from the sticking heads, eventhough it is not auto-parking. The drive electronics for the spindle motor are working correctly. There was an article in one of the August 1988 issues of PC Week that said stiction was relatively frequent failure mode seen by a drive repair company in the midwest US. --Bill