Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!julie!mcr From: mcr@julie.UUCP (Michael Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: 68020 Message-ID: <0228.AA0228@julie> Date: 30 Jan 89 20:28:57 GMT Article-I.D.: julie.0228.AA0228 Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga Distribution: world Organization: Sandleman Software Works' Debugging Department, Ottawa, ON Lines: 45 >:The Ronin '020 board, however, does not have an MMU, and therefore will not >:be able to run UNIX. The Ronin upgrade path is simply an 030 board which >:plugs into the 020 socket of their 020 board, and should work with any >:020 board, not just their own. >: >:If you need to run UNIX, I suggest you call Ronin, as I don't want to >:say anything about anything they might be waiting to unveil. >: >:If you don't need UNIX, I'd strongly recommend the Ronin board. It's fast, >:extremely-well engineered, and a fine board all around. Don't even consider >:a CSA. >: >>:-Vince Lee I quite agree that without a MMU, Unix just isn't realistic - but what bugs me about all the '20 and '30 boards is that I can't `detach' them from the Zorro II bus and let the 68000 do I/O, interupt processing, maybe even the low level buffer caches... AND run an X server! (As an AmigaDOS task of course...) One of the CA guys said something to effect that they wished that all this work on Unix would go into 1.4: It seems to me that AmigaDOS with an MMU just isn't realistic (and Unix without isn't) It would be nice if AmigaDOS moved closer and closer to Unix, with vnodes or GFS (Generic File System - a la DEC) and real processes. Keep most of Exec and Intuition but junk AmigaDOS itself. Also - as long as we are doing this, don't make it '020 or Motorola specific, (beyond msb first) and replace Janus too... Who'd want to run MS-DOS on your '386 board anyway? I WANT the features of Unix. I would like to keep a faster interrupt sensitive OS. `People are Real-Time events too' -- :!mcr!: Michael Richardson Amiga v--------+ UUCP: uunet!attcan!lsuc!nrcaer!julie!mcr | INTERNET mcr@doe.carleton.ca Fido: Michael Richardson @ 1:163/109.10<--+ Alter @ 7:483/109.10