Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!NIEHS.BITNET!ALBRO From: ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Kermit Message-ID: <8901312126.ab10227@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 31 Jan 89 21:10:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 44 Account of a Kermit construction: (1) The four files APPLE2-L 89-00797,798,800, and 801 were requested from LISTSERV@BROWNVM.BITNET. By the next morning they had arrived at the Vax cluster, having passed through 7 nodes. (2) Using RECEIVE *, they were moved to my directory. The file names were then changed to APPL797.TXT through APPL801.TXT. Using Kermit on the Vax (default settings, server mode) and Kermit-65 v.3.84 (def= text), they were downloaded with GET *.TXT onto a ProDOS formatted 3.5" disk on a IIgs. (3) Each of the four files was next processed by running TEX on the IIgs, telling it to strip linefeeds (control-J's). This step was essential. (4) Each file was then read with DOGPAW. File 797 has directions on how to reconstruct Kermit385, including mention of some things that can go wrong. Also using DOGPAW, the instruction manual (800) and list of recent upgrades (801) was hardcopied to the printer. (5) 797 was then renamed APP385.1 and 798 was renamed APP385.2. (6) These two files were then copied onto a DOS 3.3-formatted disk with COPYII+, v.8.2. (v.6.4 worked equally well; FILER did not!) (7) The DOS 3.3 disk was booted on the IIgs and the instruction FP was given. Next the instruction EXEC APP385.1,R25 was given. In response to the screen prompts, the selections of IIgs, emulate VT-100, 80-col in slot 3, modem slot 2, and printer slot 1 were made. (8) The IIgs tolerates but is not excessively fond of DOS 3.3, so the final step was to use COPYII+ again to copy KERMIT385, KERMIT.INIT, and KERMIT.HELP to a ProDOS-formatted 3.5" disk already containing PRODOS-8 v.1.4 and BASIC.SYSTEM v.1.1. A STARTUP program was written as: 10 PRINT CHR$(4)"BRUN KERMIT385". There is no point in copying the installer program or the overlays, because the installer will not work under ProDOS. (9) Step 7 was repeated in order to create another version for an Apple IIe with a Super Serial Card (different selections at the prompts.) This required using a previously-made backup copy of the DOS 3.3 disk made in step 6 above, since APP385.2 gets deleted each time 385.1 is EXECed. (10) Both versions worked fine on the first try on their respective machines, no muss, no fuss. Bottom Line: There are LOTS of different ways to get this done. There are alternatives to most of the steps above. But the above procedure DOES WORK. If you are having problems, cookbook it. Disclaimer: I can't think of any. P.Albro ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET