Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!WPI.BITNET!DSEAH From: DSEAH@WPI.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Apple IIGS Message-ID: <8902010559.AA30585@wpi> Date: 1 Feb 89 05:59:08 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 45 >Looking at the internals of GS/OS, you can see a lot of structure to >support things Apple II's have never dreamed of. This is a real Disk >OS. I think Apple some people at Apple are definitely committed to the >IIgs, but it *is* a painful machine to program for. That is why there >are still bugs in the tools and GS/OS. That's what makes it frustrating >for developers. That doesn't mean it should be abandoned. After trying to write some small assembly language programs, I'd say the 65816 *IS* a pain to program. I especially dislike all those REPs and SEPs. It sure doesn't FEEL like a 16 bit machine. Another thing that bothers me is the high cost of gathering the resources to program the machine in the first place. Slowly I have accumulated the firmware, hardware, programmer's introduction and tool box reference manuals (thanks, Mark). Now all I need is some more memory, a hard disk drive or second 3.5", the GSOS reference, APDA, and my Orca/M Upgrade! I guess it is mostly my fault that I haven't really jumped in and read all the stuff piled on my desk. --- NOSTALGIA --- :) :) :) *remember* *the* *days* *when* *you* *could* *just* *boot* *up* *Lisa 2.5* *and* *dig* *out* *What's Where in the Apple II* *and* *just* *do* *something* *neat*? :) :) :) :) ;) 4 Minutes To Application: Reminds me of the Apple II 48K cassettes. Full circle! Although I got my GS specifically because it wasn't a Mac, the attraction to a 68000/6502 hybrid machine is growing...Imagine that great assembly language on an Apple II! But then, the product distinction fades and you end up with a color Mac! With such compatibility, one could chuck the Apple II emulation altogether in a few years! Is this the master plan? What's a II loyalist to do? How did Apple go about making the specs for the Apple IIGS? Did they only survey educational markets? Did they consult on Info-Apple? GEnie? Or did just make it up? I wish Apple wasn't so tight on this, "we announce no product before its time" business. Does this policy have something to do with the overhyped-underdelivered Macintosh Office a few years ago? Another garbled message from: +-------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Seah --- Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cullowhee Home Grown +-------------------------------------------------+ Software | BITNET: dseah@wpi.bitnet | (for lack of a good name) | INTERNET: dseah@wpi.wpi.edu | | AppleLink PE: Omnitreant | +-------------------------------------------------+