Xref: utzoo comp.sys.att:5305 unix-pc.general:2090 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!n8emr!uncle!jbm From: jbm@uncle.UUCP (John B. Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,unix-pc.general Subject: Re: Announcement: 3B1 2nd Hard Disk Upgrade Message-ID: <465@uncle.UUCP> Date: 24 Jan 89 08:54:52 GMT References: <429@limbic.UUCP> Reply-To: jbm@uncle.UUCP (John B. Milton) Organization: U.N.C.L.E. Lines: 52 In article <429@limbic.UUCP> gil@limbic.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) writes: [description of what you get (lots of docs), what it does, price $30, address] I had a long conference call this evening (well, last evening) with Lenny and Gil. What came across in the phone conversation is that all my postings about the hard drive upgrade stimulated a lot of interest. The fact that I have been taking so long getting my board made, and the EXTREAM need for disk space, made them go ahead and figure out an upgrade. After going through all that, Lenny and Gil want to publish what they have, be the result of considerable effort, time and trouble. They also discussed the possiblity of publishing in a magazine. One conclusion we came to is that if I had whipped my board out sooner, they wouldn't have gone to all the trouble (what trouble? :) All of this in no way diminishes what I'm doing. As I said in my last posting, all the design work on my board is done. The PC board is finished, the PAL equations have been determined, the physical mounting has been determined (one possible configuration), the software is already done... Now I have to scare up the money for tooling charges, for the first set of boards, for the first set of parts to populate and finish documentation. In case some of you didn't know, this is my first board. I find it very interesting to be on the other side of things for change. With all the progress I've made, I'm tempted to start accepting orders. But if I do that, it would be blatant vaporware, and sure as shit Murphy would get me, and it wouldn't really work. Another topic I brought up was the possiblity of some of us UNIXpc owners getting together and talking about eveything. I brought it up because the Trenton Computer Fest is coming up in three months. This is a BIG computer show and flea market, held every year (I think this will be the 14th) in Trenton New Jersey. It's just like a Ham Fest, only all computers. I would like to set up a day and time when we can all get together there. I would like to be selling upgrade boards, just so IBM clone heads can walk up and ask what it is, and I can say "It's not for junk like that..." BTW, I have still not come up with a price for my board. This being the first time for this sort of thing, I'm scared that if I price it too low, I'll lose money, or if I price it too high, noone will buy it. Please remember that I'm not doing this to make huge piles of money. I'm just doing it to get the experience, and to make an upgrade that is as easy as possible to install and use. If you can tell honestly tell me what the board is worth to you, that would be a great help. I am flattered by all the complimentary messages I have received throughout this project. I will continue to delve into the hardware and software of this machine. Thanks to everyone for your support, but mostly for you interest. Coming up after this project will be another quicky board (ha ha) to allow use of high density (1.2M) floppy drives. John -- John Bly Milton IV, jbm@uncle.UUCP, n8emr!uncle!jbm@osu-cis.cis.ohio-state.edu (614) h:294-4823, w:764-2933; Got any good 74LS503 circuits?