Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!rutgers!cmcl2!esquire!sbb From: sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Apple's APDA: G'bye Amateurs & Fans Message-ID: <1010@esquire.UUCP> Date: 1 Feb 89 19:54:03 GMT References: <1681@tank.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) Distribution: usa Organization: DP&W, New York, NY Lines: 31 In article <1681@tank.uchicago.edu> ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: >Got my new MacTech journal. The mag seems OK, but the product offering >is not all that large. But then again, they're just starting out. Perhaps >we should give both APDA and MacTech a little while to get settled. If >the new APDA is indeed "pricing out" the amateur, I think we should let >Apple know that that is not at all cool. But let's see what happens. APDA has been "pricing out" the amateur for some time now. Remember when TML Pascal II started shipping? You could buy the whole package, including MPW 3.0 shell (with all the utilities, manuals, etc.), for $200 or thereabouts. Meanwhile, APDA was selling MPW 3.0 by itself for at least that much. When asked why Apple was setting such exhorbitant prices, the response was something like "we have no control over third-party pricing". Remember, these are the people who charge you a buck (at least) per item for shipping, when anybody in North America can pick up their phone, call UPS, and have them pick up and deliver an enormous box anywhere for about 6 bucks. My only hope is that having Apple run things will at least add a certain degree of professionalism to the organization. Or, barring that, at least a new toner cartridge for the Canon Personal Copier they use to "publish" the Tech Notes.... 1/2 :-) -- Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." cmcl2!esquire!sbb | esquire!sbb@cmcl2.nyu.edu | - David Letterman