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From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
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Subject: Re: TML Pascal II v3.0 (and MPW v3.0)
Keywords: TML pascal mpw
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Date: 31 Jan 89 13:15:34 GMT
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In article <9111@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> oei@pluto.PRC.Unisys.COM (Charles L Oei) writes:
|Does anyone have any experiences w/ TML Pascal II v3.0 that was advertised
|in the first MacTech?  I'd like to get the full MPW system (shell, C, Object
|Pascal, MACAPP) and thought that getting the TML system might be
|a way to ease into it.

When the final price list comes out (it may be in the latest APDAlog,
but I only just got it) check the price of the bundles vs. getting TML
Pascal 3.0 and MPW C (and assembler).

|Is the MPW 3.0 shell that comes w/ the TML system crippled in any way?
|(Can I just purchase MPW C, MACAPP, etc. from ADPA/TechAlliance?)

I can only answer for MPW 2.0.2 and the previous version of TML P II
(so far);  no, the version of MPW 2.0.2 sent with the TML product was
not crippled in any way.  All tools and the large manual with all the
Shell, ResEdit, Rez, Make, MacsBug, etc. documentation were included
-- with one major exception; MPW 2.0.2 included the assembler.  The
version shipped with TML P II excluded the assembler, the assembly
sample programs, and the assembly interface files.  MPW 3 has
unbundled the assembler, so my expectation is that the version you get
from TML will match disk for disk the product shipped by APDA.

I just got the upgrade notice for TML P II v3.0; the upgrade is only
$20 cheaper if I opt not to get MPW 3.0 with it.  The upgrade price is
(as I recall) very close to what I paid MacConnection for the earlier
version, though of course the v3.0 price at MacConnection may well be higher.

Hope this helped.

	/JBL
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