Xref: utzoo news.sysadmin:2073 news.admin:4531 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!rice!uw-beaver!microsoft!w-colinp From: w-colinp@microsoft.UUCP (Colin Plumb) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin Subject: Re: i2ack request for news/email supply connection Message-ID: <332@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 23 Jan 89 09:14:18 GMT References: <102@i2ack.UUCP> <9198@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <56046@pyramid.pyramid.com> Reply-To: w-colinp@microsoft.uucp (Colin Plumb) Organization: very little Lines: 26 csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) wrote: [EUNet X.25 costs are ~$0.19/K + $12/hr + $500-$1500/mo; dialup can't compete becasue Trailblazers are illegal.] > And you wonder why the Europeans complain about Dinnette-For-Sale ads? > > The big problem in Europe isn't a monopolistic EUNet; it's monopolistic and > paranoid PTTs (Post-Telephone-Telegraph). Jesus! And a Trailblazer gets well over 1K/sec, at least 10 times cheaper, even international... the answer, it now seems, is to use them anyway, as EUCon is doing. Now I'm amazed Usenet survives at all. (As to the EUCon/EUNet dispute, the obvious end result will be someone in the U.S. setting up a forwarder that hides the origin of mail beyond what EUNet can automatically filter. This could develop into a technical war, as EUNet puts that site on its hit list and it starts faking headers. I wish a solution that doesn't involve a transatlantic detour could be found.) Could someone tell the world about the legality of various modems in Europe? I remember hearing about France requiring modems to apologise if they call a human. It won't stop me from bringing and using my Trailblazer, but it would be nice to know how quiet I have to keep. -- -Colin (uunet!microsof!w-colinp)