Xref: utzoo news.groups:7105 news.admin:4588 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!haven!purdue!spaf From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin Subject: Promoting "inet" to "world" Message-ID: <5917@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Date: 30 Jan 89 02:36:11 GMT Sender: news@cs.purdue.EDU Reply-To: spaf@arthur.cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) Followup-To: news.admin Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University Lines: 101 For over a year now we have had an alternate hierarchy of newsgroups with a special distribution -- "inet" -- circulating in a subset of all the regular groups. Originally, the idea was put forth that these groups would take the place of Arpanet discussion lists (mailing lists) and they would eventually be merged into the regular newsgroups as volume and timing seemed appropriate. The inet distribution was intended to be for just those sites using NNTP to transfer news on the Internet. The idea was that since those sites were likely already getting the mailing lists delivered to local users, by transferring to the inet groups and dropping the mail distribution it would be possible to save some Internet bandwidth and local storage. The groups were not made "world" to start with because there was concern about volume. Since then, more and more sites have Internet access, Trailblazer modems have become commonplace, and site admins seem more adept about at restricting news flow on a topic-by-topic, group-by-group basis. Thus, I believe that the time has come to turn the "inet" groups into regular "world" groups. I am seeing postings and getting mail on a regular basis that indicates that sites are seeing "leakage" of the inet groups into the mainstream. I also keep seeing postings suggesting new groups on topics already covered by existing inet groups. This is not like creating a new group (or 51 groups): some of these "inet" groups have existed as mailing lists perhaps as long (or longer than) the Usenet, so their longevity and volume have already been demonstrated. Furthermore, they are already carried by hundreds of Usenet sites. Thus, conducting a poll seems to be less than appropriate. Instead, I propose that people just post an comments *against* the merger. If you feel there is a good reason not to promote the groups, register it here so people can evaluate your objections. Should no objections be raised unanswered by mid-January, I'll ask the people running the gateways to make the necessary configuration change. If you think this approach is inappropriate, post about that too. I've already found lots of people in favor of the change, and anyone currently carrying the inet groups will never note a change. So, it is incumbent on anyone with objections to raise them now. What follows is the list of groups current distributed as "inet" groups: comp.ai.edu Applications of Artificial Intelligence to Education. comp.ai.vision Artifical Intelligence Vision Research. (Moderated) comp.dcom.lans.hyperchannel Hyperchannel networks within an IP network. comp.dcom.lans.v2lni Proteon Pronet/V2LNI Ring networks. comp.editors Topics related to computerized text editing. comp.edu.composition Writing instruction in computer-based classrooms. comp.lang.asm370 Programming in IBM System/370 Assembly Language. comp.lang.clu The CLU language & related topics. (Moderated) comp.lang.forth.mac The CSI MacForth programming environment. comp.lang.icon Topics related to the ICON programming language. comp.lang.idl IBL (Interface Description Language) related topics. comp.lang.lisp.franz The Franz Lisp programming language. comp.lang.lisp.x The XLISP language system. comp.lang.rexx The REXX command langauge. comp.lang.scheme.c The Scheme language environment. comp.lang.visual Visual programming languages. comp.lsi.cad Electrical Computer Aided Design. comp.mail.multi-media Multimedia Mail. comp.music Applications of computers in music research. comp.os.aos Topics related to Data General's AOS/VS. comp.os.cpm.amethyst Discussion of Amethyst, CP/M-80 software package. comp.os.rsts Topics related to the PDP-11 RSTS/E operating system. comp.os.v The V distributed operating system from Stanford. comp.periphs.printers Information on printers. comp.protocols.iso.dev-environ The ISO Development Environment. comp.protocols.iso.x400 X400 mail protocol discussions. (Moderated) comp.protocols.iso.x400.gateway X400 mail gateway discussions. (Moderated) comp.protocols.pcnet Topics related to PCNET (a personal computer network). comp.protocols.pup The Xerox PUP network protocols. comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains Topics related to Domain Style names. comp.sys.cdc Control Data Corporation Computers (e.g., Cybers). comp.sys.handhelds Handheld computers and programmable calculators. comp.sys.intel.ipsc310 Anything related to Xenix on an Intel 310. comp.sys.northstar Northstar microcomputer users. comp.sys.super Supercomputers. comp.sys.ti.explorer The Texas Instruments Explorer. comp.sys.zenith Heath terminals and related Zenith products. comp.terminals.bitgraph The BB&N BitGraph Terminal. comp.terminals.tty5620 AT&T Dot Mapped Display Terminals (5620 and BLIT). comp.theory Theoretical Computer Science. comp.theory.cell-automata Discussion of all aspects of cellular automata. comp.theory.dynamic-sys Ergodic Theory and Dynamical Systems. comp.theory.self-org-sys Topics related to self-organization. comp.unix.cray Cray computers and their operating systems. news.software.nntp The Network News Transfer Protocol. rec.games.vectrex The Vectrex game system. rec.mag.fsfnet A Science Fiction "fanzine." (Moderated) sci.bio.technology Any topic relating to biotechnology. sci.math.num-analysis Numerical Analysis. sci.philosophy.meta Discussions within the scope of "MetaPhilosophy." soc.culture.esperanto The neutral international language Esperanto. -- Gene Spafford NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center, Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-2004 Internet: spaf@cs.purdue.edu uucp: ...!{decwrl,gatech,ucbvax}!purdue!spaf