Xref: utzoo news.sysadmin:2111 news.admin:4581 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!amdcad!sun!pitstop!texsun!convex!uunet!mcvax!ndosl!fdmetd!steinar From: steinar@fdmetd.uucp (Steinar Overbeck Cook) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin Subject: Re: i2ack request for news/email supply connection Summary: Correction - you can use asynch. modems and X.25 in Norway Message-ID: <340@fdmetd.uucp> Date: 25 Jan 89 15:16:53 GMT References: <102@i2ack.UUCP> <9198@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <8820@alice.UUCP> Organization: Fellesdata a.s, Oslo, Norway Lines: 62 In article <8820@alice.UUCP>, debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) writes: > In article <332@microsoft.UUCP> w-colinp@microsoft.uucp (Colin Plumb) writes: > >csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) wrote: > >... > >Could someone tell the world about the legality of various modems in > >Europe? I remember hearing about France requiring modems to apologise > >if they call a human. It won't stop me from bringing and using my > >Trailblazer, but it would be nice to know how quiet I have to keep. > > For using modems on the telephone net the rule is very simple: it is allowed > if the modem are "certified" by the phone company. > The catch is that there are no certified modems for sale... In Norway there are a lot of modems for sale ranging from 300 to 2400 baud. The Norwegian PTT can sell you smart modems using either the Hayes standard or the CCITT standard. > The only certified modems are the ones you can rent from the phone company > at a very high monthly rate (considering the cost of the modems). No longer true in Norway, any company can sell you a modem. Yes, you can rent modems if you wish to do so. > > Recently though some V21 and V22 modems have become certified. So 300 baud > and 1200/75 baud is now possible. and 2400. > > For the X-25 the situation is different, mainly because the phone company > is unable to supply the hardware. So certified X-25 hardware exists, but the > rates for using X-25 are very high. X.25 is widely used in Norway, my company has 17.000 terminals hooked up by SNA across X.25. The rates are quite reasonable, well this depends on what you compare it with of course. > > Either way you loose, unless you illegally install modems (trailblazer or > other) that work just fine and are legal and cause no problems in the US. > Trailblazers will work in Norway as well. > All in all a very sad situation over there. > Not true!, I think you should come "over here" and have a look for your self :-) :-) ! ----------- Steinar Overbeck Cook Fellesdata a.s P.O. Box 248 0212 OSLO 2 NORWAY E-mail : ...!mcvax!ndosl!fdmetd!steinar or steinar@fdmetd.uucp