Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:4768 rec.photo:4257 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!tektronix!sequent!brian From: brian@sequent.UUCP (Brian Godfrey) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.photo Subject: Re: Flashbulbs (was something stupid and illegal...) Message-ID: <9844@sequent.UUCP> Date: 18 Jan 89 01:13:18 GMT Reply-To: brian@crg1.UUCP (Brian Godfrey) Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc Lines: 59 >> .015 + .025 = 0.04 = 1/25 >> Much slower than most cameras are capable of? >> I thought flash sync was limited by the shutter action?? To sync to a flash you must make sure the shutter is all the way open before the flash fires (begins emitting light.) To get reproducible exposures you must ensure that the flash is finished firing before the shutter closes. (Actually the filaments in flash bulbs glow for a while, but that doesn't count.) There are three basic syncing problems: electronic flash, bulbs & leaf shutters, and bulbs & focal plane shutters. Electronic flash is extremely fast, ranging generally from 1/5000 to 1/25000. With electronic flash you have to make sure and wait until the shutter is all the way open before triggering the flash. This takes from 1/250 sec on some cameras to 1/60 sec on others. The actual exposure happens very quickly. Then the shutter closes at its leisurely pace. With flash bulbs (the above equation is for flash bulbs) and leaf shutters you have to trigger the flash, then wait for a bit while its filament is heating up before tripping the shutter, the object being to have the shutter fully open at the same time as the light arrives from the bulb. In the above case, the bulb will be emitting light for 1/25 of a second. If you wanted truly accurate and reproducible exposures you would have to use 1/25 sec shutter speed. Actually, I think you can cut off some of the rise and fall time without affecting the exposure appreciably. Focal plane shutters and flash bulbs have a little bit different timing. Leaf shutters open very quickly, so you triggered the flash then waited for most of the 15 milliseconds before opening the shutter. Focal plane shutters open very slowly. If your sync speed on a focal plane camera is 1/60 sec, then that is how long it takes for the shutter to open. 1/60 sec is about 16 ms which is very close to the 15 ms it takes for the flash to warm up. In this case your camera will have to trip the shutter and trigger the flash at the same time in order for the light to begin striking the film at the same time as the shutter is fully open. But at 1/60 sec (16 ms) you will be closing the shutter long before the bulb has fully discharged (40 ms). Your sync speed for this bulb would still be 1/25 sec on a camera with a focal plane shutter, though you would probably have no problem with 1/30 sec which is more common on focal plane shutters. With different bulbs you will probably have different sync speeds. Cameras and shutters before electronic flash probably didn't have to worry about these different syncing schemes (although they may have had flash powder to worry about.) Modern cameras probably don't have provision to sync to bulbs. Cameras in the transition period (1950s to 1980s) did make provision for both schemes while applied to them. My old OM-1 (1975) has a switch for "FP" or "X". "FP" is for bulbs (stands for Flash Powder??) and "X" is for electronic flash. My old Linhoff (I think it is 1950s vintage) has settings on the shutter for "M" and "X" sync. "M" is also for bulbs, though I have no idea what it means. Maybe a loremaster knows the meanings of the abbreviations. I have never looked to see if there is a special setting on my OM-4 for bulbs. I vaguely remember reading some- thing about it in the manual, but it may have just said to use an extremely slow shutter speed to give the bulb time to warm up while the shutter is open. Hope this was helpful. -- --Brian M. Godfrey Sequent Computer Systems Inc. !tektronix!sequent!brian