Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!xanth!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!att!cbnews!military From: military@cbnews.ATT.COM (William B. Thacker) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Are Aircraft Carriers Obsolete? Message-ID: <3404@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 24 Jan 89 02:49:56 GMT References: <3364@cbnews.ATT.COM> Organization: MIT, EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 25 Approved: military@att.att.com With all this discussion of carrier survivability, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the chapter in Tom Clancy's book "Red Storm Rising" that chronicles a Soviet ASM attack on a carrier task force. (I believe the title of the chapter was "Day of the Vampires," as 'vampire' is apparently the Navy term for an anti-ship missile.) The end result of the attack was a fairly damaged task force, due to a combination of Russian ECM, the size of the incoming missile raid, and ammunition limitations of the Aegis cruisers. Before anybody starts complaining that this was all in Clancy's imagination, let me point out that the co-author of the book was Larry Bond, developer of the game "Harpoon," and that many of the battles described in "Red Storm Rising" were gamed using the "Harpoon" rules. So, just to keep this discussion interesting, does anybody want to comment on the validity (or the lack thereof) of the scenario described in Clancy's book? What, if anything, did he not account for that would result in the task force not getting hurt as badly as it did? Warren J. Madden ...!eddie!rabbit rabbit@eddie.mit.edu