Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!ncar!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!right!szabonj From: szabonj@right (Nick Szabo) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: NSS Board membership Message-ID: <93@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: 19 Jan 89 03:29:15 GMT References: <6145@thorin.cs.unc.edu> <1989Jan15.095906.18357@utzoo.uucp> <92@beaver.cs.washington.edu> <1989Jan18.043708.27547@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu Reply-To: szabonj@right.UUCP (Nick Szabo) Organization: U of Washington, CSCI, Seattle Lines: 47 In article <1989Jan18.043708.27547@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: > >Uh, discoveries? Leading to settlements? Can you please explain this? Every major settlement in human history has been preceded by exploration. Settling in an unexplored area is dangerous, dead-end (how do you know there are any resources to support life or to export?), and totally unecessary given modern technology. Planning such a settlement, as anything but entertainment, is an equally fruitless exercise. *Sticking* to such plans, as to a religion, is bizarre beyond belief, but a sin many space supporters are guilty of. What if we build our $100+ billion dollar lunar base, and then find out there is nothing worthwhile there?* Or a similar amount on a manned Mars mission? In fact, both the Moon and Mars might turn out to be terrible places to build space industries and settlements or to provide material for same. On the other hand, we can spend this $200+ billion sending out probes such as CRAF, Cassini, and the Observer missions, and on basic scientific research leading to new technologies. This pays for 200 probes, even if you don't account for economies of scale (I suspect we can build at least 2000 probes, much better equipped than the current generation, for this price). With these we can explore every nook and cranny of the solar system, from Pluto to Mercury, with dozens of probes to look at each moon and major asteroid, and some comets as well. The data can be distrbuted around the world; you will be able to analyze them on your home computer at leisure. This gives the scientist, the prospector, and the space settlement planner orders of magnitude more knowledge and flexibility to work with. The choice becomes no longer Moon vs. Mars (an odious debate), but pick a spot from any part of the solar system. ------------ * Lunar materials to support other space industries (eg LOX) are not worthwhile until such industries generate the $100+ billion/yr plus demand needed to pay for such a base, and such materials can be made and transported cheaper than from Earth or asteroids. He-3 is unproven and depends on other scientific discoveries to provide demand. Besides these possibilities we already know the Moon is likely a dry hole. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Szabo "Want oil? Drill lots of wells." szabonj@fred.cs.washington.edu J. Paul Getty