Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!cms.umrcc.ac.uk!ZZASSGL From: ZZASSGL@cms.umrcc.ac.uk ("Geoff. Lane. Tel UK-061 275 6051") Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Concorde, Hyper-sonic jets and onto Hotol etc. Message-ID: <23.Jan.89.14:10:19.GMT.ZZASSGL@UK.AC.UMRCC.CMS> Date: 23 Jan 89 14:10:19 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 29 It pleases a middle-aged Brit's heart good to see so much interest in the Concorde as its one of the few projects that a British government did not chicken out of as the price exceeded hopelessly under-estimated development costs. Despite the high price per aircraft the research work that had to be done was used elsewhere and probably would have had to be done in any case. Right - now some space - Both the American and British Governments have made some vague noises about very fast and very high altitude jet/rocket craft at various times. It seems to me that such projects are the ONLY way that anybody outside of the space mafia will ever get out of the atmosphere. There is no point in waiting for NASA to develop a craft that is cheap or safe enough(and would YOU trust any USSR flying machine?). The only existing experts in designing and building high performance flying machines - the commercial aircraft builders - must be given sufficient incentive to produce the hardware that is required. Despite recent events I think that even PAN-AM could do the job if a profit could be seen inside a few years. This of course implies none of the very silly "You can't park that thing here" arguments that various governments get upto in the aviation business. geoff. PS I just had a thought - do you remember the visual joke in the film 2001 where the instructions for the 0G toilet almost totally covered the door? Well if we wait long enough not only will the instructions be lengthy, they may also be a translation from the Japanese!