Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!eagle.ukc.ac.uk!icdoc!doc.ic.ac.uk!brwk From: brwk@doc.ic.ac.uk (Bevis King) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Shuttle trips to the Moon Keywords: shuttle moon Message-ID: <566@gould.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 16 Jan 89 15:49:50 GMT Sender: brwk@doc.ic.ac.uk Reply-To: brwk@doc.ic.ac.uk (Bevis King) Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK. Lines: 37 I assume by now that most people realise that sending the Shuttle itself to the Moon is largely pointless. Instead, the more sensible approach is to use an OTV (Orbital Transfer Vehicle) with attached lunar lander craft brought up in the shuttle payload bay. This debate brought me to wondering if even that apparently straight forward method would in fact not be possible with the US Shuttle as it stands. From what I remember of the Apollo shots, the round trip took between two and three weeks. This I believe is about twice as long as a shuttle can stay up (being some 7 or 8 days). Hence if they went, they couldn't get back because the Shuttle would have had to return to Earth because of shortage of power and other supplies. NASA are also nowhere near up to the turn-around required to launch a second shuttle in time to pick up the returning crew. The possibility of deactivating the shuttle in orbit (unmanned of course) occured to me; the idea being that the crew would "park" the shuttle for their own return. However, the more I thought about it the less feasable it appeared, since the US shuttle remote control doesn't appear to be up to the required abilities (to correct orbits, etc). The ultimate answer appeared to be that without a permanent space station or a shuttle with a better duration in space; a return to the moon by the US could not be undertaken using any part of the much vaunted 'STS' space shuttle. The US could therefore only return to the moon if they could "drop in" on the Russians in MIR, and hitch a lift home on a Soyuz! What a sad day for American space travel. What a great opportunity for international co-operation. Regards, Bevis Bevis King, Systems Programmer | Email: brwk@doc.ic.ac.uk Dept of Computing, Imperial College | UUCP : ..!mcvax!ukc!icdoc!brwk 180 Queens Gate, London, SW7 2BZ, UK. | Voice: +44 1 589 5111 x 5085 "Never argue with a computer" ... Avon (Blake's 7)