Path: utzoo!lsuc!ecicrl!clewis
From: clewis@ecicrl.UUCP (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: suicides
Keywords: Presumption of Innocence & "Criminals"
Message-ID: <194@ecicrl.UUCP>
Date: 26 Jan 89 05:54:33 GMT
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In article <8901241831.AA06838@carlton.csri.toronto.edu> migod@csri.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
>In some article, wagner@gpu.utcs.UUCP (Michael Wagner) writes:
>>I think suicides are often refered to as alleged suicides, since the
>>determination of suicide or not is a legal matter, having great influence
>>on things like life insurance benefits.

>Not to contradict, but rather to add fuel to the fire...

>My best friend from high school (whose father owns his own insurance company)
>told me that many insurance companies *will* pay up in the event of a suicide, 
>provided that it occurs a "suitable" length of time after the original 
>purchase of the policy (two or three years).  

Actually, you're both right.  Many life insurance policies explicitly
exclude death/injury due to suicide, as a result of committing illegal
acts, and sometimes as a result of mental derangement (lovely one to
prove) &tc.  On the other hand, some insurance policies don't.  Someone
we knew killed himself last year, and his company-paid policy *did*
pay (triple salary too!).

Policies differ.  Eg: Some company policies are in force for 30-90 days 
after you leave a company, some terminate instantly.  Someone else we
knew died within a couple of weeks of early retiring,
and the policy didn't cover him (same company as the suicide...).

Alleged suicide is a convenient bit of legal jargon so that it can be
discussed without explicitly asserting that it was a suicide.  Eg:
before an inquest, during police investigation, etc. etc.
-- 
Chris Lewis, Markham, Ontario, Canada
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