Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!purdue!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!ukc!etive!aipna!rjc From: rjc@aipna.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Fun with the semantics of paradox Message-ID: <522@aipna.ed.ac.uk> Date: 8 Feb 89 06:34:07 GMT References: <479@aipna.ed.ac.uk> <3038@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <43843@linus.UUCP> Reply-To: rjc@uk.ac.ed.aipna (Richard Caley) Organization: Dept. of AI, Edinburgh, UK Lines: 52 Dragon: Mnemouth In article <43843@linus.UUCP> bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry Kort) writes: >Let's play with the assertion, > "The current king of France is bald." >If we put this into symbolic logic notation, we get > For all x, if x is the current king of France, then x is bald. Says who? I certainly would not take this as a valid translation. Apart from anything else, the second sentence contains all the problems of the first, it is of the form \/x (x=King) -> bald(x) Which is, of course equivalent to bald(King) However This is just hiding the problem ( the definite reference to an non existent entity ) behind a layer of verbage. "The Current King of France" Still does not refer, so, in the above FOPC, the constant 'King' has a somewhat strange status. Now, if you are takeing "the current king of France" to be a description ( on a par with 'blue' ) which I can just about see, then your translation does not mean the same thing as the original - since it now describes a property of a set ( the set of entities which are "the current king of France" ) rather than an individual. This is less problematical since an empty set is a perfectly straght forward object. If one really doesn't want to bring in possible worlds, then I believe that the only alternative is to say the sentence is 'odd' in some way ( meaningless being another way of saying 'odd' ). The sentence does not have a meaning in its own right since if it was used by someone the natural responce by a well informed English speaker would not have any relationship to the assertion made by this sentence, one would deny the presupposition. >--Barry Kort -- rjc@uk.ac.ed.aipna AKA rjc%uk.ac.ed.aipna@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk "Give me a beer and money sandwich: hold the bread" - Waldo 'DR' Dobbs