Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!oliveb!intelca!mipos3!omepd!inteloa!snidely From: snidely@inteloa.intel.com (David P. Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.fonts Subject: Re: Italic & Oblique Message-ID: <4108@omepd.UUCP> Date: 6 Feb 89 19:33:47 GMT References: <1603@csuna.UUCP> <1989Jan23.144822.29002@cs.rochester.edu> <43873@linus.UUCP> <323@iconsys.UUCP> <44253@linus.UUCP> Sender: news@omepd.UUCP Reply-To: snidely@inteloa.UUCP (David P. Schneider) Distribution: usa Organization: BiiN (tm) Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon Lines: 46 > [previously posted text] As a pointer to tradition, the original "fonts" dating back before Gutten- berg were generally done with pens that did not exhibit the same line width in all directions. This includes reed/quill pens, stone chisels, stylii for tablets, etc. Brush letters are a different story, however. Anyway, when holding one of these anisotropic pens, the nib was generally slanted to the direction of the baseline of the text. Take a fat, broad magic marker, draw a circle, and study the widths of various portions of the resulting "character". Typically, a roman hand uses a different nib angle than an italic hand. But since hands are all done by individuals, distinguishing different "fonts" requires a more generic approach than just minutiae. One key difference is that italic was intended to be written fast, which meant lifting the pen less: more rounded characters, smaller letters, joins between letters (replacing serifs), and fewer strokes (one reason a's ap- pear different). Slanting the whole letter was also characteristic. Go back to your magic marker, and draw an oval slanted to the right (/, not \). Originally, typefaces where intended to imitate formal hands and italic hands, and we can expect that italic fonts were designed by copying hand- made text. Later (19th and 20th century in particular), font designers made their decisions based on other criteria. For computer fonts, ease of generation is obviously important, so simple obliquing has become more com- mon. By the way, "roman" originally was "upper case" [capitals] only -- and stone cutting was a dominant force in its design, since the Roman culture was much into permanent records. I believe was tablets were also very com- mon, but I don't know as much about Roman pens and/or brushes. Uncials were an early (Christian era) attempt to speed up the handwritten Roman letters, and contain capitals only. If you've read this far, thanks. References can be found in good calligra- phy texts, and Disney has a short on calligraphy narrated by John Houseman (narrated the "old-fashioned way"?); it shows up on the Disney Channel as filler, occasionally. Also, the Western [American?] Italic Handwriting So- ciety publishes journals and other information that may apply. dave, Monday