Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!killer!texbell!uhnix1!sugar!ficc!jeffd From: jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: US and USSR (was: Re: USSR ICC (was: Information on the ICC)) Summary: Comments Message-ID: <2975@ficc.uu.net> Date: 2 Feb 89 18:47:30 GMT References: <10127@well.UUCP> <1315@orion.cf.uci.edu> <810@afit-ab.arpa> <892@afit-ab.arpa> Distribution: na Organization: Ferranti International Controls Lines: 63 In article <892@afit-ab.arpa>, William A. Bralick writes: [material deleted] >Their system is based on the subjugation of the individual > to the state, ours is based on the subjugation of the state to the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > individual. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Try telling that to the IRS/S, the DEA, etc., ad nauseum. Things have gotten so bad that, a few years ago, HEW/HHS tried to suppress *a board game* because it made fun of welfare and civil service! We should remind the folks in Washington about the way our system is *supposed* to operate. Lenin said that it is A.O.K. to lie, cheat, steal, and murder > to advance to cause of world socialism. Washington said avoid foreign > entanglements. Yes, he did. And we've been ignoring that advice ever since. The Monroe Doctrine is a prime example. Various invasions of our neighbors and involvement in the affairs of others are more examples. One can be fervently anti-Communist (as I am) and still not be pro-interventionist. Let's try ending Federal aid to the Soviet bloc and see how big of a crimp that puts into the imperialist aims of Moscow et alia. >Our system is morally superior to theirs. True, but we keep getting closer to theirs by expanding the size of our government. And one of the biggest impeti (impetuses?) behind expansion of Government power is always war or "national security". Check the explosions of Government power here during the War Between The States and the two World Wars. Believe me, tax resisters and draft resisters have more in common than they might be willing to believe. BTW, I understand a career military man studying our defense needs has come out in favor of abolishing both the Air Force and the Marine Corps. Says planes are giving way to missiles, and missiles can be fired just as well by folks wearing green as by those wearing blue; also that amphibious landings are not going to be all that common in the years ahead. Something to consider when drawing up our defense budget. Long live zero-based budgeting! Jeff Daiell (opinions my own, until taxed away) INDEPENDENCE FOR TEXAS! -- HAVE YOU HUGGED A TECH AIDE TODAY?