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From: hassell@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Christopher Hassell)
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Subject: Re: Illegality of alt.sex
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Date: 5 Feb 89 05:38:09 GMT
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<19924@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> ked@garnet.berkeley.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes:
# Perhaps the best test of the alleged pornography-violence thesis is
# Japan.  You can buy any number of items at your neighborhood bookstore or
# from vending machines that would be considered violent pornography or
# kiddy-porn in the US.  Nevertheless, I have yet to meet a woman (Japanese
# or foreign) who did not feel safer in Japan.  Moreover, you can multiply
# every violent crime statistic in Japan by a factor of TEN to allow for
# under reporting, and it still will not be up the the level of more
# restrictive countries such as the US.

I've also heard stories about Japan.  In a way it is a very non-individual
society.  Their "urges" are only channeled off to the acceptible forms of
"excitement".  <not by race or anything, I'm speaking about a VERY GENERAL
interpretation/view of their current culture>

I've heard stories about how some subways reek of sake, as businessmen are on
their way home, and how some manage to get bench-space because they've passed
out.
  
They certainly aren't better off from the urges that create a market for that
type of "literature".  They aren't largely worse, though, from it either.

NOW, try to catch AMERICANS giving their privilages AND time AND freedom
AND non-restraint and you won't be looking at a bunch of satisfied porn-readers,
you will see a riot, made up of rapists and non-rapists alike.

[ If not a race-hate-riot, if that was the case.  We're good at hate. :-< ]
[ BTW what are the effects of child-porn, if not only on the models, there? :-(]

# E H. Kinmonth, Hist. Dept.,  Univ. of Ca., Davis Davis, Ca. 95616
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Dis here is uhmehhhhricuh!  You can get whatever you want as long as you're
big enough to subdue it for a while, and not get caught!  <gad that is gross>

As for alt.sex...  One could think of it as a place to also talk about the
general issues relating to sex, unless an alt.prudes comes along :-).
So far... pornography has not found our little discussion hole around here.
### C>H> ###

PS:
I've often wondered what the "real" effects of porn are.  I have seen and 
heard little else than it being a "natural" type of drug that can lead to
addiction if not replaced with the *right* form of the "real" thing.
Hormones do have their effects...

Prostitution too, is a good question for this.  But...

I'm personally tired of seeing some Headbanger-girls be treated like #$^* 
and still walk around with everything tightened and showing off as if they
were only a magazine page, thinking that is all there is to sex and love.