Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!cunyvm!ndsuvm1!ndsuvax!ncmagel From: ncmagel@ndsuvax.UUCP (ken magel) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: M.S. in SE Message-ID: <2117@ndsuvax.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 89 13:03:35 GMT Organization: North Dakota State University Fargo, ND Lines: 25 I wish to echo the comments of the person who replied to the question concerning the lack of M.S. programs in Software Engineering by stating that his B.S. at an Australian school contained most of the information and techniques which would be covered in a software engineering M.S. I believe the time for a distinct M.S. in Software Engineering has passed. For example, in our regular B.S. degree program, the student does seven distinct multi-week group projects including design, coding, testing and debugging as well as user and maintenance documentation. Four other times the student is required to make and document substantial enhancments or fault repairs to existing code. We have courses in the standard B.S. on systems specifications, systems design ( including two different methodologies such as Jackson and Object-oriented), and testing and maintenance. Students may elect to take additional courses which cover other aspects of software engineering. In our M.S. degree, students who do not have substantial expertise in software engineering are required to take several courses which provide further experience and concepts in this area. Thus, just as a degree program in Systems Programming might have seemed appropriate in the 1960's, but not today, a distinct program in Software Engineering is no longer necessary or desireable. There are some separate programs in artificial intelligence, but their lifetimes are probably quite limited as well. I expect them to either be merged back into C.S. programs, or to become distinct interdisciplinary programs with some psychology, some physiology, and some Computer Science as well as some linguisitcs and semiotics. In fact, perhaps they will in a few years merge with the evolving semiotics programs at some schools.