Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!nrl-cmf!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!ncar!boulder!sunybcs!rutgers!cmcl2!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple VS IBM Message-ID: <9631@smoke.BRL.MIL> Date: 8 Feb 89 22:31:04 GMT References: <8901270656.AA01616@crash.cts.com> <6258@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <25073@apple.Apple.COM> <2312@uokmax.UUCP> <2804@m2-net.UUCP> <9592@smoke.BRL.MIL> <1389@cod.NOSC.MIL> <9615@smoke.BRL.MIL> <1392@cod.NOSC.MIL> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 32 In article <1392@cod.NOSC.MIL> rupp@cod.nosc.mil.UUCP (William L. Rupp) writes: >The fact is that virtually the *entire* microcomputer industry >has stopped catering to the hobbyist market. That's exactly what I'm complaining about! They all ran after the mass market bucks instead of "honest" money (exaggerating to make the point). I'm sure there is adequate profit to be made in catering to more specialized markets; in fact I help support quite a few companies that do just that. Such companies are typically "small", and that is fine; sheer corporate size is not a value (often quite the contrary). Unfortunately there aren't as many such companies as the market would bear, while there are too many all competing for the mass market. I think that's because this culture has evolved the notion that the proper purpose of an organization is to "make money", as opposed to being productive. These are NOT the same thing. The stock-market system reinforces that notion; of course we're starting to see some of the problems it causes, with hostile takeover specialists etc. >I feel confident in saying that DEC never targeted the kind of >hobbyists that once were Apple's mainstay. No, they used to provide useful stuff for laboratory instrumentation. That was downgraded to just their Marlboro LDP division, which I haven't heard anything of lately (it may not even exist now). The laboratory instrumentation people are much worse served by DEC's "IBM is our competition" mindset than they were by its former "lab applications are our main customers" attitude. I mention Digital because I got to watch that transformation happen at first hand. P.S. Most of the Apple newsgroup readership probably isn't interested in the philosophy of business, alas.