Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ECNCDC.BITNET!MSER001 From: MSER001@ECNCDC.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Basis 108...ugh! Message-ID: <8902092043.aa05633@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 10 Feb 89 00:42:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 30 For those that have never heard of a Basis 108...you probably dont want to look at one..pretty ugly! They have a cast iron case, weigh in at a lively 25lbs or more..kludged up hardware..slow keyboard..no cpm card, but z80 build into the main logic board(still like motherboard better!), along with a 6502. 80 columns simular to Apples 80 column card, but sort of kludged onto the mother board. It was the first machine to steal Apple ROMS from software. It used a pascal program to take some stuff off the pascal directory of the old 3.2 Boot disk. I dont know if they ever got in trouble for it like franklin( but franklin had a chance to pay apple under the table for the roms..per machine, but choose not too..to bad, would have been cheaper for them!), but should have! Keyboard...slowest keyboard I have ever seen! Have to pound the sucker to get anything out of it! It was fun to play around with, memory i/o to turn on z80 and back to 6502. So..you could write some 6502 code...soft switch the z80 in gear..and have a small amount of z80 code..not quite that easy... Also came with 128k...not bad for the time, since apple was still producing the 64k Apple II+. But...a normal user couldnt use the extra memory. The Basis Rep( I think he was owner or part owner..?) had the nerve to say that Apple Stole the 80column card concept from them! Ahh..what goes on when people are starting up. ( I think that apple and basis came out with the 80col card around the same time..close to it). I have great Franklin stories..and basis stories..must be a war pup eh?