Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!jgreco From: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C64 IC Failure Message-ID: <767@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> Date: 3 Feb 89 20:55:52 GMT References: <435@manta.NOSC.MIL> Sender: news@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Reply-To: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco) Organization: UW-Milwaukee Home for Out-of-date 8 bit Hackers Lines: 39 In comp.sys.cbm article <435@manta.NOSC.MIL>, mitch@manta.NOSC.MIL (Ray Mitchell) wrote: ]Has anyone encountered any problems with repeated failures with the 6526A IC ]IC in the C64? I think they call the IC an ACI. The system has two of them ]but the one interfacing to the joystick ports and keyboard is the one giving ]me the problems. ] ]I have been through about four of them in the last 2 years and I am ending ]up investing more in them than I have in the computer. I even bought a ]different computer thinking it might be something in the system but the ]new one also blows one about every 6 months (The new C64 is using a different ]power supply than the old one). I would suggest that static electricity may be at fault. The CIA is an extremely static sensitive device, and the joystick ports are directly connected. A good way to zap a 64 is to discharge a little static electricity in a joyport.... ]The problem usually manifests itself by the joysticks failing to respond to ]a certain direction or a key on the keyboard failing to operate properly. ]These ICs cost $17 each from Commodore and about twice that locally. Of course.... try mail-order. ]Commodore has no one that I have been able to contact intelligent enough to ]discuss this problem but I'm sure they would deny a problem anyway. My only ]solution is to build a replacement from discrete TTL which technically is ]no problem but I don't beleive the part is explained sufficiently in the ]programmer's manual to premit this. Commodore is obviously no help on ]this either. Don't kid yourself.... Commodore knows that this is a problem. And building a complex device like a CIA from "discrete TTL" would be overkill (not to mention that it wouldn't be physically convenient). -- jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200 USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave PunterNet Node 30 or 31 West Allis, WI 53227-3329 "These aren't anybody's opinions." Voice: 414/321-6184 Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)