Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!isishq!f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG!izot From: izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Bursting C64 (WAS: Simultaneous disk & RS-232 access) Message-ID: <1576.23F37833@isishq.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 7 Feb 89 23:06:25 GMT Sender: ufgate@isishq.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.25) Organization: FidoNet node 1:221/171 - Izot's Swamp, Kitchener ON Lines: 34 > From: eravin@dasys1.UUCP (Ed Ravin) > Message-ID: <8611@dasys1.UUCP> > > Hmmm. Now I really should go home and read my 128 PRG again before putting > my electronic foot in my mouth, but the 128 doesn't have an external CIA or > any extra hardware for burst mode, does it? The C128's internal serial port hardware is actually very different from the C64's. As you say later in the message, various CIA lines are connected to the serial port but that meant that the C128 firmware had to do various extra data direction register settings to prevent conflict whenever it used the serial port. Since the C64 ROMs in the C128 are untouched, the MMU actually physically disconnects these when in C64 mode! Bottom line: even if you added the hardware connections to a C64 and did the software to avoid conflicts, it wouldn't work in C64 mode on a C128. Interestingly enough, there was one prototype BusCard III built by Jim Law & Steve Douglas (the same ones who did the BusCard II for Batteries Included)... it included IEEE-488 AND fast (burst) serial ports, plus most of BASIC 4.0 (not quite as complete as the version in the BC II, but including many useful disk commands). Unfortunately, by the time the prototype was done, there weren't any companies interested in producing the product and Steve & Jim didn't want to waste any time on it if it wasn't going to go anywhere. Geoff ( watmath!isishq!izot ) -- Geoffrey Welsh - via FidoNet node 1:221/162 UUCP: ...!watmath!isishq!171!izot Internet: izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG