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From: dbercel@twg-ap.UUCP (Danielle S. Bercel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP/3000 TCP/IP - is it standard?
Summary: ARPA services for HP3000
Message-ID: <304@twg-ap.UUCP>
Date: 7 Feb 89 17:06:12 GMT
References: <1078@pyrltd.UUCP> <920017@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM>
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA.
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In article <920017@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM>, wunder@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM (Walter Underwood) writes:
> 
> ARPA services are available for MPE (the "classic" 3000) from The
> Wollongong Group.  ARPA services are not available for MPE/XL
> (Precision Architecture).  I don't think that the Berkeley services
> (rlogin, rcp, rsh, lp) are available from anywhere, but they are
> pretty Unix-specific anyway.
> 

     This is correct. The ARPA services have not been ported to MPE/XL
for two reasons. One, HP and the Wollongong Group have been discussing it
for months and discussions are going very slowly. Two, HP does
not provide the pseudo-terminal driver (IOPTERM0) on MPE/XL.

> 
> Also, if you login to MPE, then telnet out to a Unix machine, the
> character mode performance (for vi or Emacs, say) will be miserable.
> MPE talks to the terminal in half-duplex, so telnet has to turn the
> line around for every character!
> 

This is also correct and is why the 3000 telnet client comes up in line
mode.

danielle bercel
project leader, WIN/TCP for MPE/V
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Danielle Bercel - Senior Software Engineer - The Wollongong Group
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