Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!oliveb!3comvax!bridge2!ngg From: ngg@bridge2.3Com.Com (Norman Goodger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: New Macs Message-ID: <294@bridge2.3Com.Com> Date: 4 Feb 89 00:48:33 GMT References: <1378@trotter.usma.edu> <8400065@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: ngg@bridge2.3Com.com (Norman Goodger) Organization: 3Com Corp., Mt. View, CA Lines: 34 In article <8400065@m.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >I think Apple has shot itself in the foot. >-- How much would *YOU* pay for an SE/030 upgrade and the 1.44Mb floppy >in your machine? >-- What if I said you *get* *to* THROW AWAY your MacSE expansion >card(s), *NOW* how much would you pay? >I bet that Apple won't ever announce an SE/030 upgrade, or if they do, >then they won't sell many. We know the MacII has Nubus, well the SE >has NoBus! And now the SE/030 has NoBus2! And NoBus != NoBus2!!! >Apple has made the same mistake as IBM! And the blunder comes right >after they watched IBM falter! People resist PS/2's & the >microchannel bus partly because they must throw away their AT/XT >cards. Now people can resist the SE/030 for the same reason! >Really, I thought Apple would be smart enough to avoid getting into >this pickle. Is this the end of upgrades for SE-class machines? This is a crock....The SE30 will sell like Hot cakes, the 32 bit bus is different, there is no good way to provide compatbility for the cards that fit the current SE, and what cards do you have in your SE that you really need in the SE30..an accelerator?? What for?? Networking? Good idea, since they are already available for the SE30..yes you have to get a new one, but the newer one with the SE30 will easily out-perform the older ones. Color cards, like the Orchid, the SE30 already has color quickdraw just like the Mac II & IIx, just add a SuperMac card, and 16 million colors are yours.. The machine is fast...it portable, it fills a gap in the product line....later this year another Mac will come out this is not the last Mac for 89....Apple is not making mistakes, they are making some good marketing decisions for a change, now if they'll only lower the prices on the Mac Lines MORE..... -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-Sysop FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division