Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ulowell!m2c!wpi!tron From: tron@wpi.wpi.edu (Richard G Brewer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: 6.0.2 and Word Message-ID: <730@wpi.WPI.EDU> Date: 9 Feb 89 16:18:01 GMT References: <35727@bbn.COM> Reply-To: tron@wpi.wpi.edu (Richard G Brewer) Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA. USA Lines: 145 In article <35727@bbn.COM> oliveira@bbn.com (John Oliveira) writes: > >has anybody experience problems using microsoft word with system 6.0.2, >i've been getting a lot of system bombs just by saving a file or just by >send it to print or even by just looking at the mac without doing anything >it just bombs. >is word incompatible with 6.0.2 system or is the system buggy? >thank you I have a friend who uses word - under 6.0.2 and multfinder, while saving, Word "unexpectedly quit" causing him to loose 8 hrs worth of work. This is what he wrote (ARE YOU LISTENING MICROSOFT!! OPEN YOUR EARS!!) ---------- To: harvey@xray.byu Subject: MS Word sucks finally Cc: gshapiro, jayvana, sthamel, tron I have finally said it. I have a good reason to say it. MS Word sucks. This is the first time I have ever had it actually lose something on me. I am going to call up Microsoft support tomorrow morning and find out if there is any way I can recover this thing. I had just spent all of Sunday night (no sleep, sounds like you, Todd!) writing a report for an ME course, and at 10:00, I was just finishing printing it out, as the class started. I ran over to the class to hand it in, and left. Then today in class the professor told me to see him, and he said I had done the report all wrong and had to rewrite the thing and hand it in late and get it marked down for being late. So I said ok. It was my own stupid fault, because I printed out the wrong thing on the AT&T PCs that he told us to print out the report instructions from, and I didn't know how to use them very well, so I never went back to print them out because it was such a chore. Stupid, but what's done is done. So this afternoon I started rewriting the whole thing. I used Word's outliner to organize it, and I was going crazy with MacDraw and Word together in Multifinder to make great organized, illustrated stuff, so that if I couldn't impress the professor with my ability to follow instructions, at least I could impress him by doing it really nicely once I got it done. About half an hour ago I came to a good stopping point (I had been working on this revision non stop from 5:00 until about 1:00--8 FUCKING hours, guys! This is an entire day for Joe Buisinessman! Microsoft, are you listening???), so I decided to go to bed and spend a couple of hours tomorrow afternoon to finish it up and hand it in only two days late. So I hit command-s, it saves fine. Then I do what I always do whenever I save a Word document completely for a while. I do a save as, and turn fast save off. This is a perfectly acceptable thing, and I do it because it will save me quite a bit of disk space on a file of this size (13,400 characters in the character count from Word, and it was 54 K on the disk, which I looked at out of curiosity since I was in multifinder and all I had to do was pop back to the finder, get info, and pop back to Word and do a complete resave on the thing). So I hit save, and hit yes to "do you want to replace Project 1 file?" It gets to 33% saved, and suddenly I get a multifinder error of (3), and multifinder tells me that Word has unexpectedly quit. What? WHAT? Word? No. No, Word. You don't do this to me. Mathematica does this to me. Lightspeed Pascal can do this to me. Even HyperCard can do something like this to me. But not you, Word, good old, very close, very trustworthy friend. And in the middle of a save as? Where I was replacing my only other copy of this file that exists in the universe? Naw, naw! Microsoft isn't STUPID! They wouldn't do a save as that replaces a document by erasing the doc, then writing over it! They would write out a new doc, then delete the old, and rename the new! We learned that "good programming technique" back in Computer 2 with Mr. Huot, right? So I go and examine the situation. Project 1 is now 34K. Well, maybe it did finish and non fast save just saved me 20K. Open it. This document is damaged. I'll open it as a text document for you. Garbage. These are the text representations of the drawings I used in the document, which I don't care about because I saved those each in their own files, anyway. But no text. Panic. Yes. Panic. SHIT. Ok, let's go to Symantec Utilities now and undelete all of the word temp and, heck, let's delete every file I can, just in case! Hey, this looks promising! Word temp 10 (the highest numbered one!) consists of 11K! That sounds like most of the text I typed to me! Open it. yeay. a fucking picture of a fucking drawing i had fucking saved with macdraw alfuckingready. fuck. open other word temps. more macdraws. open word temps in system folder. garbage. scroll throug the garbage. multifinder error 3 again. what the uck is this shit? try again. error again. this time a system bomb. guess there was some bug in my system. ok, that does it. I'm going to call Microsoft customer support to find out when they're opened tomorrow. I did that. 6 to 6 pacific time. great. that means I have to make two calls to california. But if they can save me, it will be worth it. We'll have to see tomorrow morning. Luckily it's wednesday, so I don't have classes and can spend most of the morning trying to recover from this problem. Now it's 2:00, and the screen seems to be growing farther and farther away from me, the fan seems to be getting louder and louder, and the keyboard is feeling mighty strange and distant from my eyes right now. I think this means I'm getting very tired and should be going to bed now. Ha! But I HAD been planning to do that one hour ago! SHIT! SHIT SHI SHI SIHT! FUck stow i cant even type well anymore. goodinght everyone. shit --------- As you can see, he was very irritated, and even moreso at the inept "customer support lines at MICROSOFT. I hope that They're listening... -Rick +----------------------------+--------------------+--------------------+ | Richard G. 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