Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!ames!pasteur!euler!e118-ak From: e118-ak@euler.uucp (e118 student) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Word problem Summary: Wouldn't save large file Message-ID: <9800@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 13 Feb 89 07:33:13 GMT References: <413zebolskyd@byuvax.bitnet> Sender: news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU Reply-To: e118-ak@euler.UUCP (e118 student) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Lines: 39 I had a nasty problem with Word recently. I was editing a large file (about 530K) on a Mac Plus (standard, except for having the very, very, very, very original 128K ROMs -- the ones that won't let you boot if any attached SCSI device is turned off. BTW, Apple officially denies that such ROMs exist.) using v. 5 system and Word 3.01. I was doing some rather major global changes on the file, saving about every twenty minutes (every other keystroke, in other words). I did one global change which forewarned me that I wouldn't be able to undo (Fine; I had already checked to be certain I really wanted to do it) because of limited memory. It finished and then told me to close any other windows and save my document because of the memory shortage. I verified that no other window was open and saved the file. It happily purred away to my hard disk (20MB SuperMac DataFrame) for about ten minutes (not an exaggeration; I timed it), got 92% through, and told me it couldn't save the file because there wasn't enough memory. It again told me to close windows & save docs. It wasn't shortage of diskk space; I had about 3.5MB free. It didn't have enough RAM. I was in a major jam. What was I to do -- rush out and buy a RAM upgrade and install it with the machine still on & my document up and running?????? I tried three more times to save the file, and it always got 92% through and then upchucked. I tried to get it to do a fast save; it wouldn't let me select the option. Finally, I got it to save, but only by saving as a Text Only document. Why, for the love of Bellevue, did Word allow me to edit myself into a corner from which it wouldn't let me save?????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? How could it have the document in memory but be unable to save? Will this be fixed in Vapor -- er, uh, WORD -- 4.0? Another beef about 4.0: I got my little newsletter from Microsoft, mailed in June or so, arrived just after Christmas. Mailed in the little card saying "return by 7/15/88 for cheaper upgrade." Got snotty letter back telling me it was past the deadline. WELL, SO IS THE PRODUCT RELEASE!! All this after MS's upgrade dept. categorically denied the existence of any upgrade offer on another fine MS product, Fortran. I got the upgrade letter in the mail the next day. The moral of this paragraph: Microsoft's Upgrade/Customer Disservice Depts. need a major overhaul. Sorry for the verbose post. --Linc Madison, e118-ak@euler.berkeley.edu