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From: mcdonald@fornax.UUCP (Ken Mcdonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Mac Programming for Students
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Date: 1 Feb 89 19:28:15 GMT
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Thought I'd post, as this kind of thing might be interesting to
various people,

The original question concerned a Mac programming environment that
made use of Mac-ish features (events and so forth) but didn't have
the ridiculour learning curve associated with the computer we all
know and love so well.

I am not extremely well qualified to judge either of these products,
but it strikes me that Transkel for Pascal and LightSpeed Pascal could
be a real killer combination for this kind of thing.  Transkel is nice
in that it is a source code library which is not intended to be modified
(or at least not much)--you just use it like it was a set of language
extensions to Pascal.  And it's free!  LSP also looks like a great
product, providing an environment that blows away anything I've encountered
on a mainframe or micro (not that my experience has been extensive), and
does so at an incredibly reasonable price.  But even without LSP TranSkel
looks great--event-oriented prgramming, "the way it was meant to be."

Hope this helps,
Ken McDonald
{...ubc-cs!mcdonald@fornax}

P.S.  The reason I am not terribly well equipped to judge either TranSkel
or LSP is that I have had each for less than a week.  Look for a more
complete review :-) of these comments after I have had time to go through
them in depth.  My intitial impression, though is to pass on congrats to
Rich Siegel, Owen Hartnett, and Paul DuBois for the parts they have
played in developing these products.