Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!potomac!jtn From: jtn@potomac.ads.com (John T. Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXT --- not worth the effort ( Summary: lay off the U of Maryland Message-ID: <7594@potomac.ads.com> Date: 10 Feb 89 22:00:11 GMT References: <1621@mace.cc.purdue.edu> <245300004@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <3069@haven.umd.edu> Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Arlington VA Lines: 65 In article <3069@haven.umd.edu>, louie@haven.umd.edu (Louis Mamakos) writes: > In article <2646@daisy.UUCP> cplai@daisy.UUCP (Chung-Pang Lai) writes: > > > >The attitude in U of M disqualifies them to be a beta-site. If they expect > >a 100% reliable machine, they should wait for the first production > >release. It is a lose-lose situation. NExT does not get the feed-back > >or help they anticipate. U of M does not get the machine they expect. > > I don't have have the first article of this thread floating around anymore, > but please note that "U of M" doesn't refer to The University of Maryland. > We use and break our 0.8 units quite often. University of Minnesota I think. The original poster was a visiting student apparently. No one from the University of Maryland (to my knowledge) has complained about the NeXT! In fact I was there when the machines were unpacked and brought up on the network and both of them worked just fine! No unexplained crashes. No bizarre behaviors. Everything seemed clean and *very* Unix-like (at least in the time that I saw the machines). Here's the original article that started this flame war (please note the original poster's address): Path: potomac!sundc!seismo!uunet!lll-winken!xanth!nic.MR.NET!umn-cs!jayrajan From: jayrajan@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Vijay Rajan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: NeXT - Not worth the effort (yet)? Message-ID: <11076@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis I am visiting the US from Australia for a short time and I was very eager to see the NeXT machine before I return as I gather it may be some time before NeXT ship to overseas unis, especially Australia. I went to the microcomputer centre here at the U of M and asked to see their new NeXT which was hidden away in a back room. The guy in charge refused to let me see it run, he showed me the computer but told me it took ages (5-6 min) to boot and crashed at every given opportunity, only the compilers were a bit more stable and they looked liked compiling on any unix machine. Needless to say I was VERY pissed off at the .... person. He seemed to think that the computer was not even worth turning on to show as the demo programs and apps were just soooo unstable. . . etc etc etc . . Malcolm Pradhan (Hate this Minnesotan winter) -- John T. Nelson UUCP: sun!sundc!potomac!jtn Advanced Decision Systems Internet: jtn@potomac.ads.com 1500 Wilson Blvd #512; Arlington, VA 22209-2401 (703) 243-1611 "The only thing more useless than a Faberge' egg is a coffee table picture book about Faberge' eggs"