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From: ric@rioja.ifs.umich.edu (Richard Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: What number of windows is reasonable?
Keywords: OSF, DECwindows, Motif
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Date: 7 Feb 89 18:54:58 GMT
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>> ... One reaction to this in the Xt world has been the design 
>> (from DEC) of "gadgets" (windowless widgets).  ...
>   ^^^^^^^^^
>
>--Ahem-- We [[HP]] have done gadgets also. They (HP's design,not DEC's)
>will be part of the OSF User Environment Component library (Motif) that
>we are currently building .  They (any gadget) are a trememdous boon to
>large applications.

I thought that OSF had accepted DEC's Toolkit (presumably equivalent to
the MIT Xt Intrinsics) and DEC's User Interface Language? If they
have done so, doesn't this mean that OSF already has DEC's "gadgets"?
Aren't "gadgets" at a lower architectural level than the look&feel
of the User Environment Component?
If OSF is using "gadgets" in their toolkit, doesn't that give an
unfair advantage to either DEC or HP - they've been working with 
*dgets for months apparently, the rest of us will have to wait until
either MIT X Consortium or OSF formally releases the little critters.

By the way, DEC salespeople have stated that DEC *will* switch
from DECwindows to Motif. When? And when will Apollo switch from
Open Dialogue or IBM from NextStep to Motif??