Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!looking!brad
From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Introduction to REC.HUMOR.FUNNY -- Monthly Posting
Message-ID: <2724@looking.UUCP>
Date: 5 Feb 89 19:04:39 GMT
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Reply-To: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton)
Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd.
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Well, folks, if that's the way you want it, it looks like you are going to
win.  Rec.humor.funny will be removed from conventional usenet.
Unless a good compromise solution can be attained.   Here are the concerns
of mine that must be addressed:

1) If members of a site, in response to getting the group for free, do nothing
but attack it and me, particularly in the press with libel and
misrepresentation, then I need:
	A) Legal protection that ensures nobody complains that they were
	offended without deliberately subscribing and/or decrypting
	B) The right to say, "if all you're going to do is waste my time
	complaining about how you don't like what you're getting for free,
	then you're not getting it any more."

2) If the newsgroup is to be picked up by Compuserve/Source/Genie/Delphi/Bix
or similar organizations that sell access to electronic services for either
an hourly fee >$3 or a large enough monthly fee to large numbers of readers,
then *I'm* the one that arranges the link, and *I'm* the one who is the official
moderator on that service.  (From the descriptions of Portal I have read,
they don't seem to be a problem.)

3) I am legit in making the annual jokebook, and its compilation copyright
is OK.

Now after examining these needs, I decided that a compilation copyright
with an unlimited electronic distribution and storage licence to free
usenet sites, with case-by-case permission to the borderline commercial
sites was the best answer.

If somebody can think of another method to address these needs, that would
be fine.  But they are real needs, and they can't be ignored by me.
*CAN'T*.

So if you want to hold a vote on the matter, then either you lose because
you don't get 100 more removal votes than keep votes (that was the criterion
other people established during the last such debate.) or you lose because
rec.humor.funny leaves usenet.   Maybe you don't think of that as losing, but
if you don't, then it will be just as well -- if people don't think the loss
of RHF would be a loss to usenet, then what am I doing here?
-- 
Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd.  --  Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473