Path: utzoo!attcan!telly!evan
From: evan@telly.UUCP (Evan Leibovitch)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: rec.humor.facist (was Re: Changes to the monthly postings)
Message-ID: <495@telly.UUCP>
Date: 7 Feb 89 02:03:36 GMT
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In article <5493@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> dmcanzi@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (David Canzi) writes:
>In article <493@telly.UUCP> evan@telly.UUCP (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>>If you hadn't noticed, the JEDR affair never made it to the courts.

>It's not at all clear to me that the courts aren't or won't be
>involved as a result of JEDR's actions.  JEDR and friends did not just
>babble to the press, they also contacted: (1) the police, (2) the
>Canadian Jewish Congress, and (3) the Canadian Human Rights
>Commission.  According to the K-W Record, a spokesman for the police
>said nothing in the criminal code seemed to apply.  A spokesman for
>the Canadian Jewish Congress said they were looking into what they
>could do about the matter, and a spokesman for the Canadian Human
>Rights Commission came up with a section of the Canadian Human Rights
>act that they might be able to use as a basis for legal action.

So you confirm the police won't press charges. The Canadian Human
Rights Commission won't act because it wasn't a Canadian that was
'wronged'. The Canadian Jewish Congress is more interested in
following (Canadian foreign minister) Joe Clark's overtures to the PLO.

All these organizations can recognize frivolous complaints when
they hear them. They all have far more dangerous threats to go after.

>JEDR and his friends have attempted to get Brad fired from his job,
>destroy his reputation through "trial by media", get him into trouble
>with the human rights authorities, and get him thrown in jail.

Tried, and failed. Brad has shown than he is perfectly capable of
destroying his reputation all by himself.

Why didn't you deal with the main point of my posting, that Brad's
asserting copyright could not have possibly prevented JEDR's attack?
The announced changes to r.h.f. would not have stopped the damage
which JEDR has accomplished to date. Nor will they provide any
real protection if Brad, sometime in the future, _does_ approve
a truly offensive joke.

I believe there are precedents where 'proceed at your own risk'
messages, by themselves, do not excuse one from liability.

>I'd say that JEDR and his
>fellow terrorists are real good at escalation, wouldn't you?

Good enough to get Brad to join their ranks. I consider his moves to
ultimately pose a greater harm to the net than JEDR's.

P.S. I am on the board of directors of Brampton's only synagogue. I told
the original joke to the rest of the board. A few snickers, but
certainly no outrage.

P.P.S. I also believe that Brad's reactions to the attack (ie. the
top ten list), contributed to the escalation.
_____________________________________________________________________
Evan Leibovitch, System Telly, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / {uunet!attcan,utzoo}!telly!evan
  And, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."