Xref: utzoo news.groups:7234 news.admin:4686 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ucsd!rutgers!att!alberta!ubc-cs!van-bc!sl From: sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin Subject: Re: r.h.f (long) Message-ID: <2206@van-bc.UUCP> Date: 6 Feb 89 22:07:45 GMT References: <11661@gryphon.COM> Reply-To: sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) Organization: Wimsey Associates, Vancouver, BC. Lines: 39 In article <11661@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >In article <1233@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu> charlie@mica.stat.washington.edu (Charlie Geyer) writes: >> >HOWEVER - it sets a very dangerous precedent. Brads wording >states the he ``wanted to reaffirm control over the group. The >group is mine'' is not within the spirit of USENET. If brad >want to save cover his ass from the JEDR's of the world he's >going to have to find another way. > >ALSO, this is not a simple of case of defending himself from >JEDR's. His idead that ``if anybody is going to make money >of this it's going to me'' violates the spirit of USENET >on a second count. The "precedant" has been set! About a month ago information about a package called UFGate (spelling?) was broadcast. This package is free to individual end users but commercial users who want support have to pay. Obviously the people who are supplying UFGate are violating the "spirit of USENET" right??? As USENET gets larger and more successful there will be a larger number of people who will use it one way or another to make money. Either by publishing information obtained from the net, or by using it for advertising, etc. BTW where is this "spirit of USENET" document anyway? My own opinion is that I believe that Brad is correct in assuming that he can enforce a Compilation Copyright on r.h.f. I am reserving my opinion on what he is trying to with be able to restrict the groups re-distribution. I think I know why he want's to be able to do it, I'm not sure I'm happy with how he's hoping to do it. -- Stuart.Lynne@wimsey.bc.ca {ubc-cs,uunet}!van-bc!sl Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532