Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!ukma!rutgers!cmcl2!ccnysci!dan From: dan@ccnysci.UUCP (Dan Schlitt) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: network public domain? Summary: A copyright is a necessary evil Message-ID: <1262@ccnysci.UUCP> Date: 13 Feb 89 17:43:16 GMT References: <2712@looking.UUCP> <1449@papaya.bbn.com> <2944@stiatl.UUCP> <24371@amdcad.AMD.COM> <530@jhereg.Jhereg.MN.ORG> Reply-To: dan@ccnysci.UUCP (Dan Schlitt) Organization: City College Of New York Lines: 53 The idea that things that are posted become public domain has been adequately refuted. I want to respond to the attitude that leads people on the net to make this type of statement by pointing to some experience in a rather different area. Conclusions first. Attractive as the idea of freely distributed information is, the protection of intellectual property rights through copyrights and related legal mechanisms is an unavoidable minor evil. That doesn't mean that rantings like this require that sort of protection, but things of potential value do require it. Rhf is an example of something which requires that kind of protection. Now the example. Back in the dark past -- in the 1950's -- just as folk music was becoming popular there was a strong feeling that "folk music" should not be copyrighted or in other ways restricted. This kind of protection was "against the folk tradition". Various folk had taken songs and melodies from the folk tradition and so protected them. They then wouldn't let other people duplicate these songs and otherwise restricted their use. They even collected royalties when the songs were performed. Those people were *BAD PEOPLE*! A good friend of mine was one of the strong supporters of the "folk tradition". Not only that, he was a contributor to that tradition. One of the things that he did was write a very beautiful tune to an old traditional ballad for which there was no known tune. He didn't protect his work. Other folk singers picked up this song. Some of the more commercial ones recorded it, protected their "arrangement" of the song and made money from it. No mention was ever made of the real author of the tune. Now, some 20 years later, the real author of the tune is usually mentioned in the fine print. I doubt that he is really bothered by the money that he might or might not have made. But the credit for the creative effort that should have gone to him was for the most part lost. Folk music is now routinely protected. The idealistic belief in the folk tradition just didn't work. Folk music hasn't been hurt by this change. It keeps the good guys from being ripped off by the bad guys. The net has grown to the point where "tradition" doesn't provide adequate protection any more. People will take action to protect their intellectual property so they aren't stolen blind. The net will survive. There may be some bad moments like the recent ones surrounding Brad's claims. But they will get worked out. It was just another one of those predictions of the death of the net. -- Dan Schlitt Manager, Science Division Computer Facility dan@ccnysci City College of New York dan@ccnysci.bitnet New York, NY 10031 (212)690-6868